Thursday, March 8, 2012

William Andrew Ridge 1886-1958

Great Great Grandparents of Heather, Paternal line


William Andrew Ridge
son of William & Sun Su Say Ridge
Born July 25 1886 in Indian Territory, Oklahoma
Died June 6 1958 in Baltimore MD
Married 1910 in NJ
Ethel Emma Linderborn 
Born: March 23 1890 in NJ
Died: June 24 1959 in Baltimore MD


Children:
Harold A Ridge 1910–1986
Ethel M Ridge 1913-1955 m. Albert Bushek
Stillborn Ridge 1914–1914
Stillborn Ridge 1916–1916
Ralph Raymond Ridge 1917–1983
Nina (Maria) Francis Ridge 1918–1990 M. Joseph Lumbard
Mildred L Ridge 1921–1986
William Lavelle Ridge 1922–1965
Tommy (Twin to William) 1922 - 
Amanda LaVera Ridge 1923–1999 m. Craycraft
Melvin Charles Ridge 1928–1994
Dorothy Frances Ridge 1930–2001

(There is a time line, with records, below this summary)

William Andrew Ridge was born July 25 1886, in Rich Hill Missouri,  according to his passport & draft registration.  Family tell me that he is the child of Running Bear (William Ridge) & Sun Su Say, and that they were cherokee.  Unfortunately I cannot find any records for them at all.

I cannot find William in the census in 1900.  Andrew spent 4 years in the Navy, and sometime while serving met Ethel Linderborn, whom he married in 1908.

Ethel Emma Linderborn was born March 20 1890, and she was baptized at St Paul's Episcopal church in Camden New Jersey, on April 26 1891.  Her parents are listed on her baptismal records, they were Philip & Amanda Linderborn.  Mary Smith, her grandmother, is listed as a sponsor.
In 1900 Ethel is found in the census with her parents, and with her brother Russel age 6, Alexander age 2, and Howard age 2 months.

William & Ethel are found in Illinois in the census in 1910.  William's occupation is given as coal miner.  The census tells us that Ethel has had one child, but has no children living.

In 1911 they had a son Harold Ridge.  At Age 18 he was working in the furniture industry. he married Immelda E. Messick and they lived at 37 S. Charles St, Baltimore Md, just a few blocks away from Inner Harbor.

A man has contacted me,  claiming that Harold was not the son of Andrew & Ethel, rather that they had a stillborn child, and Harold was given to them by a woman who was trying to cover up an illegitimate birth. In his messages he states "About 1945 Wm. Ridge brought Harold Ridge to Belleville, Illinois. A Frazer brought them to see my parents."  I would love to find any children of Harold, to hear what they think of this story.

In 1913 William & Ethel had a daughter, Ethel M. Ridge. She worked atthe Bottle Top Industry in 1930, at age 16.  Later She married Albert John Bushek Sr.  They had at least two children. A 1953 city directory shows them in Oregon, and tells us that Albert was in the army. Ethel died March 2 1955 (age 41) in Oklahoma.  The cemetery internment form tells us that she was the wife of SFC Albert J. Bushek, RA, 39326592 Hq & Hq detachment, 45th Trans Bn, Fort Sill Okla. "Albert John Bushek drove an ammunition truck away from the compound while it was on fire from enemy incoming attack. He saved numerous lives and was awarded a Bronze Star."

Records tell us that Andrew & Ethel had at least two stillborn children, in 1914 & 1916.

In 1916 William's draft registration tells us that they live at 1400 N. Adams, Peoria, Illinois. William was a stationary engineer.  His draft card states that he has a wife and 3 children, but I only know of two children alive at this time, Harold & Ethel.  William was of medium height, with brown hair and blue eyes.  

Son Raymond was born September 12, 1917 in Cook County Illinois. He married Helen Irene Luedtke July 20. 1940.  They are found in the city directories in Maryland. He died March 1983 in Baltimore, Maryland.

In 1918, my great grandmother Nina Francis Ridge was born.  She grew up to Marry Joseph Lumbard Jr.

In 1919, William traveled to Cuba for work.  The Davison Chemical Company supplied this letter - "Mr William Ridge, who is connected to this company as Mechanic, has made application for a passport to permit him to go to Cuba on  very important matters for this Company in connection with the development of our pyrites property located near Cienfuegos, Cuba

Our Company have been dependent upon pyrites from Spain in making sulphuric acid, the delivery of which has been seriously interfered with on account of the U-Boat warfare.  The development of our Cuban property is of vial importance and it is in connection with that work that Mr Ridge is leaving for Cuba as soon as his passport is granted."  On August 16 1919, Ethel &  the children visit him in Cuba. Ethel States in her passport application that she is to be accompanied by her four infant children
Harold 8 yrs, Ethel 5 years, Ralph 2 years, Nina 10 months
Solemnly swears that she was born in Camden NY on the 23rd day of March 1890
and that her husband, William A Ridge, was born in Richfield Missouri, and is now residing in Cuba.  Purpose is to "join husband who is employed in Cuba" Passenger records show the entire family returning the next month, in September 1919.

In 1920 the family is living in Baltimore MD, and they remain in Maryland for the rest of their lives. The census tells us that William's parents were born in Oklahoma.  William is employed as an engineer in Fertilizer Manufacturing.

In 1921 William & Ethel have a daughter, Mildred.  Mildred L. Ridge was born February 11 1921 in Maryland. She married Samuel Birely.  She died November 28 1986.
In 1922 they have a son, William Lavelle Ridge was born April 9 1922 in Maryland.  He married Anna Marie Lulie on March 22 1942.  He enlisted in the army December 12 1942. PFC US ARMY WORLD WAR II.  William died Jan 30, 1965 in West Virginia, and is buried in Baltimore national cemetery, Maryland.

And in 1923, they have another daughter.  Amanda Lavera Ridge was born July 12 1923 in Baltimore Md.  She married Horace Richard Craycroft. He was in the army from 1944-1946. She died February 23, 1999 In Maryland.

In 1928, another son.  Melvin Charles Ridge was born on October 14 1928 in Baltimore Maryland. He died 1994 in Baltimore Md.

Their last child, a daughter, was born in 1930.  Dorothy Frances Ridge was born July 13 1930 in Baltimore Maryland. The SS Death Index tells us: Apr 1945: Name listed as DOROTHY FRANCES RIDGE; Jan 1950: Name listed as DOROTHY FRANCES CRAVINES; Aug 1954: Name listed as DOROTHY FRA HOUSE; 11 Mar 1977: Name listed as DOROTHY F WELLS. She died June 2001 in Florida

William died June 6 1958 in Baltimore Md.  I do not know where he is buried.  Ethel died almost exactly a year later, on June 24 1959, also in Baltimore.


Time Line

1886- Andrew is born
His passport application in 1919 gives us his birthdate, place of birth, and the name of his father.  His birthday is confirmed by census records, and his draft cards.

He is the son of Andrew Ridge who was born in Rich Hill Missouri, and died before 1919.


1891
Baptism Record For Ethel Emma (Linderorn) Ridge
Name:Ethel Emma Linderborn
Birth Date:23 Mar 1890
Event Type:Baptism
Baptism Date:26 Apr 1891
Baptism Place:Camden, Camden, New Jersey
Father Name:Philip Linderborn
Mother Name:Amanda Linderborn
Organization Name:St Paul´s Episcopal Church
The first sponsor is Mary Smith, I cannot read the second name - but it is also a smith. Ethel's grandmother was Mary (Gregson) Smith.

Name Ethel E. Linderboni
Gender Female
Birth Date 23 Mar 1889
Birthplace Camden, Camden, New Jersey
Father's Name Philip Linderboni
Mother's Name Amanda G. Smith
CITING THIS RECORD

"New Jersey Births and Christenings, 1660-1980," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FZD3-G6F : accessed 19 January 2016), Philip Linderboni in entry for Ethel E. Linderboni, 23 Mar 1889; citing Camden, Camden, New Jersey, reference ; FHL microfilm 494,213.

Other information in the record of Ethel E. Linderboni
from New Jersey Births and Christenings
Name Ethel E. Linderboni
Gender Female
Birth Date 23 Mar 1889
Birthplace Camden, Camden, New Jersey
Father's Name Philip Linderboni
Father's Birthplace U.S.
Father's Age 25y
Mother's Name Amanda G. Smith
Mother's Birthplace U.S.
Mother's Age 24y
"New Jersey Births and Christenings, 1660-1980," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FCPR-9J6 : accessed 19 January 2016), Philip Linderboni in entry for Ethel E. Linderboni, 23 Mar 1889; citing Camden, Camden, New Jersey, reference v 31 p 153; FHL microfilm 494,213.

1900 - Residence
Where is William in 1900? He'd be about 14 years old.


I found a William Reed, a stepson of Edward Thompson, born in Indian Territory - but birthdate is given as december 1886, and it lists his father as being born in Mississippi, so I do not think this is him.

Ethel is in New Jersey in 1900, with her parents:
1900 - Residence:
1900 United States Federal Census about Philip Cinderborn
Name: Philip Cinderborn
[Philip Linderborn] 
Age: 35
Birth Date: Jun 1864
Birthplace: Maryland
Home in 1900: Camden Ward 10, Camden, New Jersey
[Camden] 
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Amanda Cinderborn
Marriage Year: 1889
Years Married: 11
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Birthplace: Germany
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Philip Cinderborn 35
Amanda Cinderborn 34
Ethel M Cinderborn 10
Russell Cinderborn 6
Alexander Cinderborn 2
Howard F Cinderborn 2/12


The Dawes Rolls
I find just one Andrew Ridge in the Dawes rolls, an it is not our Andrew - wrong father, too old, and his father died before "our" Andrew was born.  

NOT our Andrew  - 
Andrew Ridge
Oklahoma Applications for Enrollment to the Five Civilized Tribes
Name Andrew Ridge
Event Type Application
Tribe or Clan Cherokee By Blood

Case Number 1570

1908  - Marriage


Marriage To Ethel Emma Linderborn
Age: 24
Jersey City, Hudson, New Jersey, United States 
(the 1910 census shows them being married for 2 years)

(Andrew spent 4 years in the Navy - I was told by another researcher that he met Ethel while in the navy)

1910 - Residence
Name: William A Ridge
Age in 1910: 23
Birth Year: 1887
Birthplace: Missouri
Home in 1910: Belleville Ward 1, Saint Clair, Illinois
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Father's Birthplace: Missouri
Mother's Birthplace: Missouri
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William A Ridge 23
Ethel Ridge 20
Beside Ethel is says Children 1, Children living, 0.
Occupation for William is Coal Miner

The 1910 Census shows William A. Ridge, a coal Miner, and his wife Ethel, in Bellville Ward 1, Saint Clair Illinois. The date on the census page is April 29. Ethel is shown with 1 child, but 0 children living. 
Coal Mines in St Clair Illinois - http://hinton-gen.com/coal/stclair.html

1911 Son Harold Ridge is born
Harold A. Ridge was born on April 12 1911 in St Louis Missouri.  (Source- passenger list from his return trip from Cuba in 1919)  There's a discrepancy in his date of birth.  The 1920 census shows him to be born about 1912. The SS death index shows his birthday as April 12 1911 and the passenger list shows it as April 10 1910. 

The 1930 census shows Harold still living at home, in Baltimore, age 18, working as a laborer in the Furniture industry.  

He married Immelda E. Messick, and the city directories show that he lived at 37 S.Charles Street, Baltimore Md- just a couple of blocks away from Inner Harbor.  The city directories show them in Baltimore in 1937, but I can not find them in the 1940 census.


Harold, in the passport photo from 1919 (age 8)


Name Harold Ridge
SSN 215-03-6306
Born 12 Apr 1911
Died Feb 1986
State (Year) SSN issued Maryland - Before 1951

A man has contacted me,  claiming that Harold was not the son of Andrew & Ethel, rather that they had a stillborn child, and Harold was given to them by a woman who was trying to cover up an illegitimate birth. In his messages he states "About 1945 Wm. Ridge brought Harold Ridge to Belleville, Illinois. A Frazer brought them to see my parents."  I would love to find any children of Harold, to hear what they think of this story.

This Newspaper article tells us that he had at least one son, also named Harold - 

The Daily Times 
(Salisbury, Maryland)
21 Jul 1944, Fri • Page 6

1913 Daughter Ethel M. Ridge is born
Ethel M. Ridge was born October 11 1913 in Maryland.  In 1930, age 16, she lived at home with her parents and worked in the Bottle Top industry.  She married Albert John Bushek Sr.  They had at least two children. A 1953 city directory shows them in Oregon, and tells us that Albert was in the army. Ethel died March 2 1955 (age 41) in Oklahoma.  The cemetery internment form tells us that she was the wife of SFC Albert J. Bushek, RA, 39326592 Hq & Hq detachment, 45th Trans Bn, Fort Sill Okla.

"Albert John Bushek drove an ammunition truck away from the compound while it was on fire from enemy incoming attack. He saved numerous lives and was awarded a Bronze Star."

1914 & 1916
There are records of two stillborn children to Andrew & Ethel, one in 1914, and one in 1916.


1916 - lives in Peoria Ill



1917 - son Ralph Raymond Ridge born
Raymond abt age 3 in the 1919 passport photo
Ralph Raymond Ridge was born September 12, 1917, in Cook County Illinois.  He married Helen Irene Luedtke July 20. 1940.  They are found in the city directories in Maryland. He died March 1983 in Baltimore, Maryland.

Name Ralph Ridge
Birth Date 12 Sep 1917
Birth Place Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Gender Male
Father Name William Ridge
Father's Age 32
Mother Name Ethel Lindeborn
Mother's Age 27
FHL Film Number 1276329


Nina (Maria) Francis Ridge 1918–1990
Nina married Joseph Lumbard Jr, they are Heather's great grandparents. You can read more about them here: http://heathersgen.blogspot.com/2012/03/joseph-lumbard-1911-1954.html

1919 - Traveled to Cuba for work
age 33
William A. Ridge
Passport Photo, 1919


Employer - Davison Chemical Company


Established 1832
Davison Chemical Company
Sulphuric Acid
Baltimore MD, July 7th 1919

Secretary of State
Washington DC

Dear Sirs, 

Mr William Ridge, who is connected to this company as Mechanic, has made application for a passport to permit him to go to Cuba on  very important matters for this Company in connection with the development of our pyrites property located near Cinefuegos, Cuba

Our Company have been dependent upon pyrites from Spain in making sulphuric acid, the delivery of which has been seriously interfered with on account of the U-Boat warfare.  The development of our Cuban property is of vial importance and it is in connection with that work that Mr Ridge is leaving for Cuba as soon as his passport is granted.

Yours Very Truly, 
Davison Chemical Company
A D Huntington

Vice President




Name William Ridge
Birth Date 25 Jul 1886
Birth Place Indian Territory
Age 32
Passport Issue Date 8 Jul 1919
Passport Includes a Photo Yes
Residence Curtis Bay, Maryland
Father Name Andrew Ridge
Father's Birth Location Rich Hill, Missouri
Father's Residence Deceased


William Ridge 
born in Indian Territory on the 25th of July
Father Andrew Ridge born in Rich Hill Mo, deceased 
is a resident of Curtis Bay, Maryland
Occupation Engineer
Asking to travel to Cuba, planning to return in 6 months, for the purpose of
"To assist in developing" and then I cannot read the writing.  Pyutes Nume?
Intends to leave on the P&O line, out of Key West, as soon as passport is approved
Signed William Ridge, July 8 1919

On the side is the following note - 
This party knows many old time residents of Bellville Ill (?) whom I know.  Ed
I'm not SURE the signature reads Ed, it actually looks more like "Edlo"



August 16 1919 - Ethel & Kids travel to Cuba to join William
Ethel States in her passport application that she is to be accompanied by her four infant children
Harold 8 yrs, Ethel 5 years, Ralph 2 years, Nina 10 months
Solemnly swears that she was born in Camden NY on the 23rd day of March 1890
and that her husband, William A Ridge, was born in Richfield Missouri, and is now residing in Cuba.

Purpose is to "join husband who is employed in Cuba"




1919, September
Returned, with his family, from Cuba To New York
Note - Nina is listed as Maria in the record above.

1921 - Daughter Mildred L Ridge Born
1921–1986
Mildred L. Ridge was born February 11 1921 in Maryland. She married Samuel Birely.  She died November 28 1986.

1922 Son William Lavelle Ridge
 1922–1965
William Lavelle Ridge was born April 9 1922 in Maryland.  He married Anna Marie Lulie on March 22 1942.  He enlisted in the army December 12 1942. PFC US ARMY WORLD WAR II.  William died Jan 30, 1965 in West Virginia, and is buried in Baltimore national cemetery, Maryland.

" I also wanted to mention that Uncle Lavel was a twin. The twins name was Tommy this is the story my Mom (Amanda Ridge) told me. Grandfather had Tommy and Uncle Bill (as he was known to us) out for a walk in winter and he bought Tommy an ice cream well he got pneumonia and died Grandfather always blamed himself for Tommy's death.. I am not sure why he was not listed in the children. " - Dolores, daughter of Amanda Ridge




1923 Daughter Amanda LaVera Ridge is born
 1923–1999

Amanda Lavera Ridge was born July 12 1923 in Baltimore Md.  She married Horace Richard Craycroft. He was in the army from 1944-1946. She died February 23, 1999 In Maryland.

Obituary
Capital, The (Annapolis, MD) - Wednesday, February 24, 1999
Amanda Craycraft

Amanda Ridge Craycraft, 75, of Severna Park, died of heart failure Feb. 23 at Anne Arundel Medical Center after a brief illness. 

A native of Baltimore, Mrs. Craycraft lived in Severna Park for 39 years. She was a charter member of the Severna Park Women's Bowling Association and a longtime holder of the high score mark at Severna Park Bowling Lanes. She also coached children's bowling leagues there. 

She was a member of Severna Park United Methodist Church. Among her interests were painting ceramics and various crafts. She won the presidential award for physical fitness at one time. 

Her husband, Horace Craycraft Sr., died in November 1997. 

Survivors include three sons, Jerry W. Craycraft of Severna Park, Samuel J. Craycraft of Pasadena and Horace Craycraft Jr. of Jessup; four daughters, Ruth Kinder of Glen Burnie, Lucy Mae Nakkula of Calumet, Mich., Mary M. Gadd of Glen Burnie and Delores Wagner of Crownsville; a sister, Dorothy F. Wells of Fernando, Fla.; 11 grandchildren and 15 greatgrandchildren. 

Visitation will be from 3 to 5 and 7 to 9 p.m. tomorrow and Friday at Barranco and Sons Severna Park Funeral Home, 495 Ritchie Highway, where the funeral will be at 10 a.m. Saturday. Burial will be in Meadowridge Cemetery in Elkridge. 

Memorial contributions may be made to the American Cancer Society, 1041 Route 3 North, Gambrills, MD 21054.

1928 Son Melvin Charles Ridge is born
 1928–1994
Melvin Charles Ridge was born on October 14 1928 in Baltimore Maryland. He died 1994 in Baltimore Md.

1930 Daughter Dorothy Frances Ridge is born
 1930–2001
Dorothy Frances Ridge was born July 13 1930 in Baltimore Maryland.  
The SS Death Index tells us:
Apr 1945: Name listed as DOROTHY FRANCES RIDGE;
Jan 1950: Name listed as DOROTHY FRANCES CRAVINES;
Aug 1954: Name listed as DOROTHY FRA HOUSE;
11 Mar 1977: Name listed as DOROTHY F WELLS
She died June 2001 in Florida


From Dolores (Craycraft) Wagner - 
Hello Heather I notice in you records of my grandfather that you do not have my Aunt Dorthy. She was married to Lonzo House and lived in 1700 block of Light Street S. Balti. in the 50's we lived in the 1600 block she had 6 children Lonnie-Linda-Bonnie -Dotty-Johnny &  Junior. I did not know that she was ever married to any one else but Uncle LD that's what we called him. I remember when she was not married and she would spend the night at our house and she and I would sleep on the floor. Shad the coolest roller skating bos it was silver and had stickers all over it from places she had skate.and she was good at it.
Aunt Dot could have been married before she married Uncle LD and after he passed she went to Fla. were one of her daughters live and meet the last man she married.

Name: Lonzo Dewitt House
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Birth Year: abt 1929
Residence: Wester, Leflore, Oklahoma
Spouse's Name: Dorothy Denton
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Age: 22
Spouse's Residence: Baltimore, Maryland
Marriage Date: 14 Apr 1953
Marriage License Date: 14 Apr 1953
Marriage County: Scott
Event Type: Marriage
FHL Film Number: 2134769

Lonzo's tombstone lists his children on the back - the names are the same as Dorothy gives here, plus one additional.



Draft Cards:





1920
Name: William Wridge
Home in 1920: Baltimore Ward 25, Baltimore (Independent City), Maryland
Age: 33
[3] 
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
[abt 1917] 
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head] 
Spouse's Name: Ethel Wridge
Father's Birth Place: Oklahoma
Mother's Birth Place: Oklahoma
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Wridge 33
Ethel Wridge 29
Harold Wridge 9
Ethel Wridge 6
Ralph Wridge 2   [2 4/12] 
Mina Wridge

The 1920 census says he is an engineer in the Fertilizer Mfg.


1930 - Residence
Name: William A Ridge
Home in 1930: Baltimore, Baltimore (Independent City), Maryland
View Map
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name:  Ethel E Ridge
Race: White

Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William A Ridge 43
Ethel E Ridge 40
Harold A Ridge 18
Ethel M Ridge 16
Ralph R Ridge 12
Nina F Ridge 11
Mildred L Ridge 9
Lavalle W Ridge 7
Amanda L Ridge 6
Milvin C Ridge 1


Research Notes:

"On your blog you have a picture of Great Grandfather Ridge and two little girls. My mom said to tell you those little girls are your mother [not possible - emailing for clarification - more likely my grandmother, Nina] and your Aunt Susie (I think she said Susie….she was at the airport and the phone was breaking up but she wanted my to tell you that and also that she tried to email you). She has the same picture." - Rhonda

"Nina was my moms sister. Nina had 3 children Wonnie, Susie and Barry. Polly is my niece and the picture of 2 little girls with my grandfather are I believe  Wonnie and Susie . the oldest girl that you think is Nina could not be if Susie is the youngest child ,plus grandfather was old in that picture he really didn't change that much over the years I knew him. Grandfather would be 32 when Nina was born, so it can not be her. " Dolores, daughter of Amanda Ridge

William Andrew Ridge
Born July 25 1886 in Indian Territory, Oklahoma
spouse Ethel M. Ridge
Employed by the Bethlehem Ship Building


height 5'5, weight 160, complexion light
I believe it says eyes are grey and hair is blonde, but the image is not clear enough for me to be sure



David Knapp says that these parents are wrong, and that William is the son of Susan Fazer - conflicting with our own families stories. I'm researching, but have no idea what the truth is. Mr Knapp's recollections involve kidnappings & scandals & are interesting, but I have not proven the connection. So many William Ridges in that area at that time!

Andrew Ridge Sr - 
William Andrew Ridge (Running Bear)

Oklahoma territory did not keep records, look for records in Missouri
Look for Records under Rich Hill, Mo
"His grandparents were from N.C. ( we believe) and were on the Trail of Tears. My Gr-aunt told me her father had told her that when he was a boy of about 10, Buffalo Soldiers came to the village and killed many woman, children and old people. This was "on the Strip". She said it was hard to get him to talk. This is about all I know." Rhonda
Wife - Lalonnie Name means "Morning Star"
Full blood cherokee indian.


"Hello I read your genealogy notes on William Andrew Ridge and found it to be very interesting. Nina was my moms sister. Nina had 3 children Wonnie, Susie and Barry. Polly is my niece and the picture of 2 little girls with my grandfather are I believe  Wonnie and Susie . the oldest girl that you think is Nina could not be if Susie is the youngest child ,plus grandfather was old in that picture he really didn't change that much over the years I knew him. Grandfather would be 32 when Nina was born, so it can not be her. I also wanted to mention that Uncle Lavel was a twin. The twins name was Tommy this is the story my Mom told me. Grandfather had Tommy and Uncle Bill (as he was known to us) out for a walk in winter and he bought Tommy an ice cream well he got pneumonia and died Grandfather always blamed himself for Tommy's death.. I am not sure why he was not listed in the children. My  daughter helped my Mom to trace her family tree I need to find out if she remembers what happened to it. Do you have Polly's (Rhonda) email address. My old computer got a virus and I lost all my stuff. Did you know Barry Lee he was polio but he had been names march of dime child and had gotten a teddy bear from Elvis Presley I remember seeing the news paper picture of them. Aunt Nina would always come down to visit us and it would rain ever time she came it kind of got to be a joke between her and my mom . Barry and I really liked playing together I would always play on the floor with him and his tractors. I remember Uncle Joe very well we use to go to there farm in Pa.  They had a huge Pig and he ate a whole pumpkin in one bite. I am 70 years old born in 1946 on Halloween and my nick name is Dodo pronounced Doe doe. that's how I got my email  address. I just started to trace my Moms family tree so I can prove I am Cherokee Indian I would like to make my Mom proud and be registered  with the Cherokee Nation  I do know that after my Moms grandchildren the blood line is to thin. So I have got to get to work on it not getting any younger.  We lived on Light Street in S. Baltimore and  grandfather and grandmother live on S. Charles St. on the 3rd floor in one room Uncle Ralph and Aunt Helen had the rest of the house. Me and my sister Mary went down to there house cause Mary had a big wort on her elbo and mom said grandfather could fix it . Well he open this big trunk and got out a leather pouch and poured some rocks or stones out and got the white one out he rubbed it on her wort and said a few words we didn't understand and he picked this big old wort right off her elbow and not a drop of blood and it didn't hurt. Amazing. I would love to tell you more but it late and I am not sure if you will even get this email but if you do I wait to hear from you. " - Dolores, daughter of Amanda Ridge

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